Wednesday, March 7, 2007

Reports of 911 Truth NYC Demise Greatly Exaggerated?

"The movement does not need counter intelligence or disruptive "agent provocateurs" to hurt the movement... it's dying from within... if not dead already."

Lets not forget that Les Jamison has already sent out emails throughout the 911 truth community accusing Luke Rudkowski, Tom Foti, and Nico Haupt of being agents simply for calling him out on lies he told the group about his past.

Quoting The Skepti*Overlord :

> Hi Johnathon and all...
>
> On Mar 2, 2007, at 11:08 PM, JV wrote:
> > A few weeks ago Bill from Above*opSecret.com attended an organizational meeting and offered technical and hosting help for establishing a NY911Truth Forum. I would also like to offer my expertise in making this happen. If the group approves, I would be willing to work with Above*opSecret to establish the forum, form a committee or whatever is appropriate. Volunteers would also be needed for forum moderators once the system is populated.
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> (some observations from a concerned "semi-outsider" of your group, if I may be so bold)
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> Most are unaware that I communicated to Tom and Les that I have receded somewhat, as well as our offer of help (for now).

> However, I'm still keenly interested in the issues, the "movement's" goal, and continue to be focusing attention in our own way.
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> I've seen the Nico-explosion video and the online tsunami of embarrassment it's causing for the movement. The moment he dropped the F-bomb in a place of worship in mixed company is the moment he should have been asked to leave, never to return. Behavior like that only proves that attention is more important than addressing real issues.
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> The "truth movement" is in serious trouble. At this stage of your evolution, you can't afford not to devote significant time and energy to why and how it's in serious trouble.
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> Consider these tibits of information...
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> Our 9/11 Conspiracy Survey:
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> Over 51,000 people who visit a large conspiracy discussion board took the survey (about 70% were non-members)... and more than three- quarters firmly believe there are "one or more conspiracies related to the events of 9/11/2001."
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> But, our visitor surveys shows a disturbing counter-point:
> An older one --
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> -- Out of the nearly 50,000 conspiracy-minded respondents, only 8% picked "9/11 Conspiracies" as a primary area of interest. And when asked for their second-favorite area of interest, 9/11 conspiracies came in sixth.

And a newer one -- -- With responses now edging over 6,000, only 4% report being attracted to "9/11 Conspiracies"... second from last.
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> If you can't generate interest in those predisposed to have an affinity for your issues, then something is terribly wrong, and likely your message and/or presentation is at fault.
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> On Mar 5, 2007, at 12:36 PM, R Rod wrote:

> > Les, I don't know if you are CIA, COINTELPRO, or what, but it is very clear that right now you are doing more to hurt the movement than anyone else.
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> The movement does not need counter intelligence or disruptive "agent provocateurs" to hurt the movement... it's dying from within... if not dead already.
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> The bickering over procedural and governance issues in your group is not unusual and very normal... but it is certainly amplified by the passion inherent in your reson detre.
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> But don't let it detract from recognizing there is a much larger and more important issue -- the failure of your message. I can't see how any 9/11 Truth group could possibly, in good conscience, expend precious energy on any other subject at this point.
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> But that's just me.
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> Thanks for allowing me this brief moment in your in-box.
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> Your friend,
> Bill
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